The Thread: Act XV - Scene One
I think this can be chalked up to a
Not a pleasant one.
How many of us can attest to
ordering something online
which did not arrive as the
This is what happened to Damselblue,
and she has expressed her
frustration and dismay.
Please also keep in mind that the
of this thread
was for Damselblue to ask
hobbyists' opinions on whether
this would be considered ...
- i.e., quality rock ...
- i.e., don't keep it in
your system because those shapes
are neither conducive to the
healthiest beneficial bacteria
population nor are they conducive
to the highest quality or number
of pods one could have.
I thought Damselblue just asked a
"Does this look like good Live Rock or Bad LR?
I just want to know if this looks like good LR or bad LR."
I didn't realize her question
was that complicated!
(of the highest quality)
I don't recall Damselblue
asking anything about those!
This dense, mound, boulder-like shape
can be used as a "filler" or a "base"
in the bottom of a large reef structure.
It can and will be populated with
some beneficial bacteria and pods
and even color up with time and the
right conditions. This is all true.
If Damselblue had a large enough tank,
she could follow these suggestions,
go to her LFS for "cherry picking" nicer
shapes to stack on top of these.
Given her limited space and budget,
which she blew on rock which at
most looks like a quarter of what
the seller's website represents,
this is not really possible.
A quarter of what the website represents ... ?
I think I must have eaten something
Okay ... I've got a great sense of smell,
but maybe my eyes ain't so good ...
Here's one of
Damselblue's photos ...
(with an adjustment to the light levels)
And, here's one that
was on the website ...
Originally posted by LadyOctopus
This dense, mound, boulder-like shape ...
The least a supplier can do for someone
buying a box of live rock is to provide the
customer a variety of shapes and sizes
so the customer can build a reef -
a structure through which water can
flow and the animals can take refuge in.
This box of rocks ...
is more suited to BUILDING A STONE WALL.
I'm not saying this is a
deliberate practice of this supplier,
I'm sure it's not, but it happened
at least this one time.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ...
1. Why are the shapes of most of Damselblue's
rock so unlike what is pictured?
2. Why don't the photos represent examples
of the actual product that is offered?
3. Are these photos from rocks that were
being shipped some months past?
4. When was the last time these boxes were
actually looked into for quality control?
5. Why are there no boulder-like mounded
shapes pictured in the Fiji Ultra-premium
section of the website?
This would have forewarned Damselblue
of the types of shapes she may be receiving.
(The website stated
"Large pieces are not uncommon"
... serving as either a description or a "forewarning.")
The real issue has not been addressed.
I think things have gotten so blown out
of proportion and the personal attacks
have to stop.
Damselblue is neither trying to SLANDER
this company or FALSELY PORTRAY
the actual product she received.
She is simply very disappointed and defending
her decisions, which keep getting questioned.
I certainly agree with ya there, m'Lady ...
it's definitely gotten blown out of proportion!
Damselblue is not a professional photographer
with years of experience in the field of
capturing the details of each shot.
She is DOING HER BEST to show
what she is talking about.
Again, with all respect to m'LadyOctopus ...
no one ever expected Damselblue to be a professional
photographer, but a little bit of light and positioning
of the rocks would have helped us all out a bit.
It is duly noted that one should follow the
recommendations of the seller if one would
like the seller to be receptive to complaints
about the product.
In all of the research Damselblue has done,
she found what she felt was good protection
against bad hitchikers.
Nothing done during the acclimation process
affected the shapes of the rock received -
can we focus on that for once?
The simple matter of the difference in
type and quality of shapes the advertising
medium portrayed and what she actually
received (with the exception of ONLY ONE
piece) keeps getting pushed to the side here
and clouded with talk about coralline
algae coverage - which everyone knows
will regenerate with time, and whether
or not the high saline dip shocked
the various life forms within the rock.
Also possible to regenerate with time.
And, for individuals who have posted
negatively about Damselblue's complaints,
I have another message:
Have you forgotten what it was like
when you started your first system?
The amazing highs and lows brought
with each new discovery?
Why are you criticizing a conscientious
new hobbyist instead of attempting
to educate and promote good
Dearest LadyOctopus ... My opinion doesn't
matter here much, I'm just here
to squawk a bit, but did you happen
to notice that the "only one piece" looks like
an awesome SHOW PIECE that you normally
don't find in a box of live rock from Fiji?
As for amazing HIGHS and LOWS ...
I'm with you on that one!
In any case, can you PLEASE do me a
favor and try not to pick on the hobbyists?
They are attempting to conscientiously
educate and promote good reefkeeping
practices to an overly critical new hobbyist.
These folks have been trying to help out here!
By the way,
try to do the right thing.
...Continue to Act XV - Scene Two